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LesterBurnham #1 Posted 19 June 2019 - 05:16 PM

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PLEASE Wargaming limit the number of these wheeled 'tanks' in Frontlines!

 

They are an utter [edited] on this game mode.

 

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In agreement here.  Mainly due to packet loss i was getting on the HK server making it damn hard to hit the little buggers.
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Even for those of us with low ping, no packet loss, and are able to hit them find these little shits annoying. We all know why, so no need for me to rehash those reasons again.

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Yup, they are a bad idea, REALLY badly implemented......

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WG could add a few versions of wheelie rentals, that way everyone can drive them.

 

30 vs 30 frontline at 100km/h.


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Also agree . Will finish this current lvl , then WG can shove FL . I enjoyed it before the clown cars .

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Never happened, WG are infamous in denying their mistakes so they'd rather will let us in agony... 

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But, but... WG is going to add the African wheeled tanks in the long run? : /

 


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http://forum.worldoftanks.asia/index.php?/topic/84147-wheeled-tanks-in-frontline/

As I said back in April. Nothing wrong with wheeled LT.


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View PostNapalmer, on 21 June 2019 - 07:02 AM, said:

http://forum.worldoftanks.asia/index.php?/topic/84147-wheeled-tanks-in-frontline/

As I said back in April. Nothing wrong with wheeled LT.

 

Hang on, you advocated a view range buff, and said they sucked.

 

 



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View PostVindictus_Maximus, on 21 June 2019 - 09:16 AM, said:

 

Hang on, you advocated a view range buff, and said they sucked.

 

 

 

Sure did, but that's not related to this topic.

If I have to spell out EXACTLY what I'm trying to say, there's nothing wrong with wheeled LT IN FRONTLINES.


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It appears many would disagree with you napes. For mine while they are annoying in randoms they are somewhat balanced by how few maps they can run riot on. FLs however doesn't offer that balancing factor. It's like always getting prok.

 

The underlying problem WG face is their impact on the game can't really be undone. WG would need to set a new precedent to change them at this point. But i guess that's WG's issue to fix.


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It really is easy to farm prestige points in frontlines by just driving around and being a pest in a wheeled vehicle, they do seem a little too good in frontlines, then again the LT-432 does "balance" them.

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View PostAngmar_, on 21 June 2019 - 10:20 AM, said:

It really is easy to farm prestige points in frontlines by just driving around and being a pest in a wheeled vehicle, they do seem a little too good in frontlines, then again the LT-432 does "balance" them.

 

Except the LT-432 can miss. Those clown cars don't even when driving at full speed.

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View PostAngmar_, on 21 June 2019 - 12:20 PM, said:

It really is easy to farm prestige points in frontlines by just driving around and being a pest in a wheeled vehicle, they do seem a little too good in frontlines, then again the LT-432 does "balance" them.

 

And therein lies one of the bigger issues with FL as a mode in general. The best ways to farm prestige don't really relate very well to the base game itself. I don't mean just wheelies here, i mean things like magic spells breaking vision, giving arty to everyone every few minutes, having so much of a focus on capping and resetting, rewarding a 'close' game rather than one where a team dominates etc.. While i'm sure some of it was by design, other elements just seem badly implemented. Eg, had they implemented two types of SS, one for spotted by a tank, one for spotted by a plane, you could at least help pubbies deal with broken vision better. Or have planes operate as if they were spotted for a moment (not for 20s or whatever it is) so SS works the same. Or better yet (as i've harped on about) they could just remove the magic spells altogether. Just like wheelies, they appear to break more things than they add.

 

View PostSir_Direkin, on 21 June 2019 - 12:28 PM, said:

Except the LT-432 can miss. Those clown cars don't even when driving at full speed.

Or crit for no damage and off it drives. My 432 now has a pub equipment layout and a FL layout to try to cope with them.

 

For mine another element of wheelies which wasn't all that well thought through by WG is that reward just yoloing about rather than thoughtful play. It's a bit like arty. While arty you can be clueless about the game and just click once in a while and have an impact, wheelies anyone with basic WASD can be remarkably effective despite having no clue what they are doing.


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View PostNapalmer, on 21 June 2019 - 09:14 AM, said:

 

Sure did, but that's not related to this topic.

If I have to spell out EXACTLY what I'm trying to say, there's nothing wrong with wheeled LT IN FRONTLINES.

 

This is the original thread you started

http://forum.worldof...r-75-be-buffed/

 

It was obvious (to me anyway) from the start that this tank was going to be powerful - buying the EBR was no-brainer. Yet so many of the youtube experts said it was weak tank (skill4ltu lol), I wonder how many of these complainers are just salty that they had the chance to pick one up for a bargain, but did not buy because they were poorly advised.

 

In Frontlines, I would consider the B-C12t the equal of the EBR, because it gets so much more spotting assist and spotting their own damage, and I see so many guys get General on the back of their LT-432s. Most of the complainers I see do not actualy own a wheeled tank, or play poorly in them. Thus the mentality of 'If I can't have it then nobody should have it'

 

My mentality is, suck it up snowflakes and buy one when it comes on sale again.

 

 

 



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View PostVindictus_Maximus, on 21 June 2019 - 12:35 PM, said:

and I see so many guys get General on the back of their LT-432s. 

Raises another annoyance of FLs, there's no way for the players to see stats on it. For pubbing we can see easily which tanks are broken, for FLs, you have to rely on digging into post battle team scores and of course you won't get any real statistical basis for what you are seeing. Oh and fwiw as part of my 'are arty getting many generals' checks i seem to see more ebrs than 432s but i wasn't really checking those two so could be something as simple as which tank shows first.


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View PostVindictus_Maximus, on 21 June 2019 - 10:35 AM, said:

Thus the mentality of 'If I can't have it then nobody should have it'

 

It's not sour grapes when it's recognised as being broken in FL. It's like everyone can get arty, and I play arty occasionally, because even now it's still broken, and yet I'd also prefer FL without them.

 

The EBR 105 FL 10 will go on sale again, and I'll probably get it just for FL. They're a scourge, they're broken, that's exactly why I'll be playing it, and even when I have it I'll still think they should be removed.

 

View PostEzz, on 21 June 2019 - 10:30 AM, said:

Or better yet (as i've harped on about) they could just remove the magic spells altogether.

 

Just a reminder that when I played an early iteration of FL on the test server for season 1, it was actually a lot more fun when they hadn't yet implemented those magic spells.

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Man, i killed a LOT of wheelies yesterday thanks to decent target leading and plenty of good luck (including a match where I killed all three of the enemy light wheelies) and BOY WAS THAT EVER SATISFYING.

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Wheelies did lose 2 reserves, while almost all other proper classes gained 1-2 reserves each; shouldn't that mean that they're FL-balanced now?

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