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Puggsley #421 Posted 13 November 2019 - 09:53 AM

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View PostFeeTFooD, on 13 November 2019 - 11:45 AM, said:

And doesn’t have the manticore or T-43 showing in his stats. 

 

Its funny how, given the Senlac is a better tank than the LTMVNFGTDGFBM, and British LTs are good, why VM is not doing really well in it. They are so strong after all. 

 

Maybe its a real life example of how good players do well in any tank, and bads in mediocre tanks really suck.

 

I'm just waiting to see him smashing it in the Manticore, it will give his argument some real heft.



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View PostPuggsley, on 13 November 2019 - 12:53 PM, said:

 

Its funny how, given the Senlac is a better tank than the LTMVNFGTDGFBM, and British LTs are good, why VM is not doing really well in it. They are so strong after all. 

 

Maybe its a real life example of how good players do well in any tank, and bads in mediocre tanks really suck.

 

I'm just waiting to see him smashing it in the Manticore, it will give his argument some real heft.

I derped a GSOR three times using my T49 in the time it took him to hit me twice. Three non penetrations in the time it took me to get hit by two. I’m assuming the Manticore is just as bad


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Puggsley #423 Posted 13 November 2019 - 10:43 AM

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The shitty reload time is just a ruse to take your mind off the fact you only have 25 rounds, and that the next worst T9 scout (1390) has 60% more potential damage than you. 

 

Imagine the salt if you were out of ammo in 3 minutes and 15 seconds like if you had the dpm of the next worst T9 scout, the EBR.

 



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As a test, I just rushed a full HP Setter in my full HP AMX 13 75. 1v1

 

I had time to fully reload my clip to finish him off before he was able to kill me (someone else put a shot into him, but my clip still would have easily finished him off, as I only needed the first shell).


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Puggsley #425 Posted 14 November 2019 - 11:42 AM

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A ram to the side of a UK light from a low tank will often flip them onto their sides as well, if you are unlucky enough to not kill them outright.

 

Well unless you have a 100% controlled impact trained driver, which has given some people a little surprise. 



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I'm sorry Ezz, unless you have played it yourself you don't get a say in it. Thems the rules.

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15 shells. 390 average damage. Potential average damage of 5850 if every shell hits and penetrates. I don't like those odds. 

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I thought it got 20. But yeah...

 

In other news i've been seeing more of the average players into the mtv now. That will be interesting to watch.


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Oh it is 20, which increases the potential damage to 7800, but not every shell will hit.

 

IMO the best way to fix the British lights and make them viable is just slightly increase the rate of fire or slightly more alpha. 
 

The Setter for example does 135 damage every 6 seconds (or slightly lower if you have vents, rammer etc). The T71s with their 76mm do 150 (the CMCD fires 13.3 shits per min), the 13/75 has a clip of 4 and can do ~540 every 20 seconds. In 20 seconds the Setter can do a whopping 405 damage. 
 

Increasing the alpha or RoF to even remotely equal the CMCD won’t break the setter but it’ll make it actually capable of defending itself. 


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crash74 #431 Posted 29 November 2019 - 01:25 AM

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UK LT need lot of buffs, others than the shell capacity....

 

I simply regret getting them.....stuck at GSOR....almost give up....

 

 



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View Postcrash74, on 29 November 2019 - 04:25 AM, said:

UK LT need lot of buffs, others than the shell capacity....

 

I simply regret getting them.....stuck at GSOR....almost give up....

 

 

You don’t like how they turn like battleships?


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Puggsley #433 Posted 29 November 2019 - 06:01 AM

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I'd be happy with an ammo count boost.

 

Its insanely frustrating to run out of ammo, or pass up easy side shots when you have worked into a good position because its getting to late game and you think you will need your shots in final stages. 

 

The battleship turn is one of those unique quirks.



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Manticore researched after 134 battles.

 

I started to enjoy this GSOR after the engine upgrade.

 

Now in dilemma whether to get the Manticore, others than the low ammo capacity. The other major concern is the gun elevation at 8 degrees only, reminds me on the AMX 50120 before the buff.



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Yeah I finished mine a few nights ago, 89 battles but i used those multiplier thingsmajigs when I remembered. 

 

Not sure I can be arsed getting the shitcore. If I want to play passive lights then I'll go for the EVEN90.



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I've been playing the Setter a bit lately and if there is anything i'd change about it, it'd only be the alpha of the gun. Slightly increase it and keep the RoF the same. It won't unbalance the tank but it'll make the shoot and scoot play style a little easier. I don't have the top gun on the LHMTV yet so can't comment about that.

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I have used my UK blueprints on the UK LT line. So woo hoo im now granted immunity from this thread.

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I will bite the bullet.

Sold my GSOR and wait for the tech tree discount. (EU having in-game tech tree discount from 21-27 Dec, not sure about Asia)

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View Postcrash74, on 18 December 2019 - 10:25 AM, said:

I will bite the bullet.

Sold my GSOR and wait for the tech tree discount. (EU having in-game tech tree discount from 21-27 Dec, not sure about Asia)

 

I too am waiting for discount to buy this. XP unlocked and waiting



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Some pointers of how to play the Manticore. 

 

First the Endboards, then some pictures of how to play a sneaky vision scout.

 


Edited by Puggsley, 31 January 2020 - 06:29 PM.





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