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matthew1 #1 Posted 07 August 2019 - 05:12 PM

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You sir, you madam, you guys. I am sure you are all lovely people. However you have proved that you are all [Content removed] by create this line of British light tanks. They are shit, you know they are shit, yet here we are. You have trolled the world of tanks player base. 

 

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View Postmatthew1, on 07 August 2019 - 07:12 PM, said:

You sir, you madam, you guys. I am sure you are all lovely people. However you have proved that you are all [Content removed] by create this line of British light tanks. They are shit, you know they are shit, yet here we are. You have trolled the world of tanks player base. 

Not the entire player base. Only those who bother going up the line.

 

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CardinalMite #3 Posted 07 August 2019 - 06:06 PM

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Personally I have decided to pretend they only get added when the inevitable buffs happen next time WG decide they are not getting enough revenue.

 

Clearly with the events they have on right now and recent Swedish mediums and before that French wheelie; I think they decided that they had too many free xp targets competing with each other.

 

They will make more money long run by spreading them out.  Hence shit stats on British LTs now then as soon as the Wheelie/Swedish mediums/Swedish heavy buffs interest  dies down, expect magically buffed British LTs...


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HexHammer #4 Posted 07 August 2019 - 07:10 PM

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Yet OPs stats

 

<a href='http://oi68.tinypic.com/143j4v6.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://oi68.tinypic.com/143j4v6.jpg</a>

 

This is the same phenomena with DezGamez, when he had a run of really good games in the Manticore, far better than he has enjoyed in any other tier10 tank, yet could not override his programming and recognize it.

 

It's called

 

<a href='http://oi63.tinypic.com/2enc4uu.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://oi63.tinypic.com/2enc4uu.jpg</a>

 

Thats why i came to this thread, to try to avert this happening to people.


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Surely there is only a very low % of players that are actually dumb enough to bother with this line.

WG is completely taking the piss. Or they dont understand their own game.

 

 


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
 
 
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HoPeY_ #6 Posted 07 August 2019 - 07:45 PM

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Found the tier 7 and 8 ok. 9... a struggle so far.

 

 

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CardinalMite #7 Posted 07 August 2019 - 08:02 PM

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View PostHexHammer, on 07 August 2019 - 11:10 AM, said:

Yet OPs stats

 

<a href='http://oi68.tinypic.com/143j4v6.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://oi68.tinypic.com/143j4v6.jpg</a>

 

This is the same phenomena with DezGamez, when he had a run of really good games in the Manticore, far better than he has enjoyed in any other tier10 tank, yet could not override his programming and recognize it.

 

It's called

 

<a href='http://oi63.tinypic.com/2enc4uu.jpg' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://oi63.tinypic.com/2enc4uu.jpg</a>

 

Thats why i came to this thread, to try to avert this happening to people.

Or small sample size... plus confirmation bias but you know just cherry pick anything that supports your world view.


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Ezz #8 Posted 07 August 2019 - 08:06 PM

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View PostHoPeY_, on 07 August 2019 - 09:45 PM, said:

Found the tier 7 and 8 ok. 9... a struggle so far.

That's some pro grinding. Lee would be impressed.

 

How many battles did you get in each?

 

Side note hex, is there a term for someone who keeps presenting anecdotes as data?


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View PostEzz, on 07 August 2019 - 08:06 PM, said:

That's some pro grinding. Lee would be impressed.

 

How many battles did you get in each?

 

Not many, had Exp to 9 at start. But wanted a feel for them and top 4 happened mainly. Not even close to that with the 9... Real struggle so far.

 

They kind of remind me (tier 7 and 8) of the French lights.. but need bushes.



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View PostHoPeY_, on 07 August 2019 - 08:11 PM, said:

 

Not many, had Exp to 9 at start. But wanted a feel for them and top 4 happened mainly. Not even close to that with the 9... Real struggle so far.

 

They kind of remind me (tier 7 and 8) of the French lights.. but need bushes.

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spacewolf #11 Posted 08 August 2019 - 06:31 AM

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I'm starting at the 7 and running a credit changed crew (CBF buying gold). It's a med posing as a light I think. Slooooowwwww speed, slooooowwww reload time. Only had about 8 games I think. 

 

Gun seems nice, but could benefit from a faster ROF. Dunno about it feeling like a frenchie  - it lacks the speed for that comparison. 


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View PostCardinalMite, on 07 August 2019 - 08:02 PM, said:

Or small sample size... plus confirmation bias but you know just cherry pick anything that supports your world view.

 

OP enjoyed a winrate far exceeding his average winrate, and a tank performance FAR exceeding any other tier8 LT he played. Yet was triggered to the point he came here and ranted, despite the contradicting evidence right before his eyes..

 

It is like the science fiction cliche, where you can destroy a robot by giving it a paradox, because it blows it's logic circuit. OP's logic circuit was blown, and i find it very funny.

 

The line is balanced. A lot of people will now go on and play these British light tanks, the skilled players that play to it's strengths will enjoy playing them very much, and guys like you will just have to suck it up, or play other tanks instead

 

 

 

 



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Funny the skilled players I saw playing them to their strengths last night had some rather illustrative suggestions on what to do with the line.

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View PostHexHammer, on 08 August 2019 - 08:18 AM, said:

 

OP enjoyed a winrate far exceeding his average winrate, and a tank performance FAR exceeding any other tier8 LT he played. Yet was triggered to the point he came here and ranted, despite the contradicting evidence right before his eyes..

 

It is like the science fiction cliche, where you can destroy a robot by giving it a paradox, because it blows it's logic circuit. OP's logic circuit was blown, and i find it very funny.

 

The line is balanced. A lot of people will now go on and play these British light tanks, the skilled players that play to it's strengths will enjoy playing them very much, and guys like you will just have to suck it up, or play other tanks instead

 

 

 

 

 

I was curious too and i really was looking for forum people who have played these light tanks so i could laugh a bit confirm my suspicious that these tanks are too bellow the average playable tank. However he only played 16 battles, which for me is not enough to call it a "decent sample of average stats" in any given tank. Short game sessions can have stats fluctuations or variations that does not necessarly means is the true average, thats why we need a large sample. This is specially important when regarding those Vbadict statistic screenshot someone posted above.

 

Obviously, the average joe who dont have free xp and take a long time to grind havent even got any close from getting these tanks, bad players are specially afraid of touching these fragile machines as it will make them lose even more, thus slowing down the grind even more since losing means less XP for the grind....As soon as the "mass playerbase" manage to get their hands in these new british tanks we gonna see that average win ratio in the Vbaddict stats (that someone posted above) go down sharply to around 43%...


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There is certainly one person on this thread suffering from cognitive dissonance, and apparently any even basic knowledge of statistics. You understand that cherry-picking is not the done thing don't you? And that drawing conclusions from very small data sets is "brave".

 

Its also kind of hard to take someone, who is not even close to actually playing these tanks, seriously. 

 

These tanks might have good camo and high alpha, but they are sluggish as hell and have no dpm to try to contest forward passive scouting locations in nearly all situations. On a few maps they might do better, or against teams which camp hard and let you take your time. For the majority of games I saw them played last night they were played very defensively, and were terrible in the end game.

 

Small size on a highly mobile tanks works great, on a slug that accelerates poorly its almost meaningless. On a slug which cannot defend itself its a recipe for disaster.

 

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A number of the Brit LT's I encountered last night made a satisfying "popping" sound when the T49 derp cannon spoke in their cardboard-armoured ears.

They're certainly a lot more rewarding to shoot with the derp than the g0ddam wheelies.

 

On a serious note, is the ammo rack on the tier 8 especially weak? Got 3 one-shots last night in the T49 with ammo racks...



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A number of the Brit LT's I encountered last night made a satisfying "popping" sound when the T49 derp cannon spoke in their cardboard-armoured ears.

They're certainly a lot more rewarding to shoot with the derp than the g0ddam wheelies.

 

On a serious note, is the ammo rack on the tier 8 especially weak? Got 3 one-shots last night in the T49 with ammo racks...

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View PostMudguts4710, on 08 August 2019 - 11:35 AM, said:

 

On a serious note, is the ammo rack on the tier 8 especially weak? Got 3 one-shots last night in the T49 with ammo racks...

 

Looking at tanks.gg it's not low for a tier 8 light tank, equal highest with a few tier 8 LTs



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View PostHexHammer, on 07 August 2019 - 11:18 PM, said:

 

OP enjoyed a winrate far exceeding his average winrate, and a tank performance FAR exceeding any other tier8 LT he played. Yet was triggered to the point he came here and ranted, despite the contradicting evidence right before his eyes..

 

It is like the science fiction cliche, where you can destroy a robot by giving it a paradox, because it blows it's logic circuit. OP's logic circuit was blown, and i find it very funny.

 

The line is balanced. A lot of people will now go on and play these British light tanks, the skilled players that play to it's strengths will enjoy playing them very much, and guys like you will just have to suck it up, or play other tanks instead

 

 

 

 

Well if you enjoy playing them then good for you. But don't tell people the line is balanced based on a tiny sample of games played by other people. We need weeks of results on at least regional or global scope to say one way or the other.

 

But in any case you are missing the point. Let's say you are right, they are balanced. Are they fun, are they worth grinding are questions that need to be answered. You clearly like a 1 dimensional LT play style. Others may not.


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View Postmttspiii, on 07 August 2019 - 11:39 PM, said:

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