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[Announcement] Global Map Season 12 - things you need to know [updated Aug 14th]


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Mobius99 #1 Posted 13 August 2019 - 05:26 PM

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Hi Commanders,

We are now in Global Map Season 12!!
In this season we are trying a full-Tier X Global Map setup combined with weekly tournaments throughout the season, hope everyone has recovered from the demanding Summer Event and enjoy Season 12.

Weekly tournaments (Eastern front only) will be held every Saturday starting from 16:00 UTC+8.

In addition, "Alley of Fame" page on WOT portal will be temporarily disabled, due to the technical difficulty caused by full-tier X fronts setup, we will announce Seasonal Rankings by end of this season.


Feel free to share your feedback about current season status here, we will be glad to take constructive suggestions into consideration for upcoming Season 13 in Nov.

 

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=======================================Aug 14th, Update=============================================
Some players reported confusion about how VP mechanism works this season, so we will share more detailed rules about VP here:

  1. Clans win VP by getting gold:
    - Gold income from province per hour.
    - Ransack income
    - Completing Gold missions
  2. Clans win VP from battles:
    - with a formula and bonus factor based on the province type of the battle

    - VP formula: VP formula.png
    - Victory_points_base_coefficien = 50 (for tier 10)
    Battle_type:
    a) All battles within challenges tournament on Landing Provinces will have battle type coefficient = 1;
    b) Battles between pretenders on regular or auction Provinces will have battle type coefficient = 3;
    с) Battles against Province owner on any type of Province will have battle type coefficient = 10.

    - Elo_c

    Enemy clan Elo rating

    Elo_c

    < = 1000

    1.0

    1001 - 1050

    1.1

    1051 - 1100

    1.2

    1101 -  1150

    1.3

    1151 - 1200

    1.4

    1201 - 1250

    1.5

    1251 - 1300

    1.6

    1301 - 1350

    1.7

    1351 - 1400

    1.8

    1401 - 1450

    1.9

    1451+

    2.0

  3. VP calculate separately in 2 fronts, what you see in WOT Clan portal log is ALL VP accumulated, which may not be your actual VP registered on leaderboard if you are playing on both fronts.
  4. No weekly leaderboard or tournaments for Western front, only seasonal leaderboard which we will announce by the end of the season.

 

 



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Thanks Mobius for the update!

2019: [CALM] 'Keep Calm and Carry Us' is being merged with old Malaysian, Indonesian, Filipino and Singaporean clans. Creating a competitive SEA-based clan. We will be playing T10 activities starting 2019, you're welcome to join us if the timezone suits! https://asia.wargaming.net/clans/wot/2000003292/

 


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chook_on_a_stick #4 Posted 13 August 2019 - 11:10 PM

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@ Mobious99 - So is there are way to work out where you are in the rankings on the western map or overall?

And are the rankings based purely on points, e.g. if Team A have 1000 points but has only played  on the western map and team B has 900 points but has played a game on the eastern map is team A in the lead or is team B in the lead?

Currently as I wite this Sabre is at 1545 Victory Points, but we don't appear on the only published rankings which has a pop uip menu that only includes the Eastern map. Sabre has not played on the Eastrn map as yet.

However the current number 3 ranking team on the EASTERN map ladder (i.e. FORT) is currently shown at 1524 victory points.
Does that mean we're *currently* third and FORT are fourth but just don't know it yet?

If this was the situation end of the week and we (Sabre) played a single map on the eastern map would Sabre end up in the weekly tournament?


I don't think that having the ranking made available at the end of the season is very practical or very reasonable especially when you have a new format and the rules are not very clear.

It effectively means that no one can really understand their position - not even the guys at the top of the ladder because there might be some other team that is ahead of them, or there might not be - but the situation is not clear becasue a large chunk of the teams are not shown in the ladder even if their points are higher than the people who are in the ladder.

Can we please get some clarification, or even better can we please get the rankings ladder fixed so every one can work out how the system works and where we all stand?







 


Edited by chook_on_a_stick, 13 August 2019 - 11:35 PM.


GamVino #5 Posted 14 August 2019 - 04:03 AM

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Hi Mobius.
The Western Front leader board is nowhere to be found.

IMC_Jimmy #6 Posted 14 August 2019 - 05:16 AM

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View Postchook_on_a_stick, on 14 August 2019 - 12:40 AM, said:

@ Mobious99 - So is there are way to work out where you are in the rankings on the western map or overall?

And are the rankings based purely on points, e.g. if Team A have 1000 points but has only played  on the western map and team B has 900 points but has played a game on the eastern map is team A in the lead or is team B in the lead?

Currently as I wite this Sabre is at 1545 Victory Points, but we don't appear on the only published rankings which has a pop uip menu that only includes the Eastern map. Sabre has not played on the Eastrn map as yet.

However the current number 3 ranking team on the EASTERN map ladder (i.e. FORT) is currently shown at 1524 victory points.
Does that mean we're *currently* third and FORT are fourth but just don't know it yet?

If this was the situation end of the week and we (Sabre) played a single map on the eastern map would Sabre end up in the weekly tournament?


I don't think that having the ranking made available at the end of the season is very practical or very reasonable especially when you have a new format and the rules are not very clear.

It effectively means that no one can really understand their position - not even the guys at the top of the ladder because there might be some other team that is ahead of them, or there might not be - but the situation is not clear becasue a large chunk of the teams are not shown in the ladder even if their points are higher than the people who are in the ladder.

Can we please get some clarification, or even better can we please get the rankings ladder fixed so every one can work out how the system works and where we all stand?







 

Think u might find and i could be wrong but you will be only eligible to participate in the weekly tournaments if you're clan is on the eastern front 15v15....


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HexHammer #7 Posted 14 August 2019 - 06:52 AM

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Tier 8 is the most active comp on the EU server, and was the most popular here. It is convenient that there was a 'technical difficulty' in displaying the rankings, as it is obvious that there will be a collapse in participating clans.

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View PostHexHammer, on 14 August 2019 - 06:52 AM, said:

Tier 8 is the most active comp on the EU server, and was the most popular here. It is convenient that there was a 'technical difficulty' in displaying the rankings, as it is obvious that there will be a collapse in participating clans.


Which is why there are nightly tier VIII SH happening all the time...…. Surprised you weren't saying tier VI 



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View PostHexHammer, on 14 August 2019 - 06:52 AM, said:

Tier 8 is the most active comp on the EU server, and was the most popular here. It is convenient that there was a 'technical difficulty' in displaying the rankings, as it is obvious that there will be a collapse in participating clans.

 

Tier 8 CW was popular for 3 main reasons:

 

1) Tank locking has minimal impact when you can "buy" your way out of it in the form of premium tanks. (Defender locked? Bring out the 252U.)

 

2) Inherent paywall that benefits paying members (which usually are the more committed to the game) compared to a free to play player trying out CWs, since most, if not all, meta tanks are premiums at tier 8.

 

3) Can still turn a profit during CWs despite gold spam since premium tanks are used.

 

Tldr, pay-to-play mode. Nah. 


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HoPeY_ #11 Posted 14 August 2019 - 11:41 AM

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View PostU12D13, on 14 August 2019 - 10:35 AM, said:

 

Tier 8 CW was popular for 3 main reasons:

 

1) Tank locking has minimal impact when you can "buy" your way out of it in the form of premium tanks. (Defender locked? Bring out the 252U.)

 

2) Inherent paywall that benefits paying members (which usually are the more committed to the game) compared to a free to play player trying out CWs, since most, if not all, meta tanks are premiums at tier 8.

 

3) Can still turn a profit during CWs despite gold spam since premium tanks are used.

 

Tldr, pay-to-play mode. Nah. 

 

Don't forget was a lot easier to get a tier 8 tank (prem and non) and callers understood the range better (smaller clans).



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View PostHoPeY_, on 14 August 2019 - 11:41 AM, said:

 

Don't forget was a lot easier to get a tier 8 tank (prem and non) and callers understood the range better (smaller clans).

 

Also known as, minimum effort, minimum map and tank knowledge, minimum skill against such opponents.

 

And then there's those that complain about the minimum rewards being dished out.

 

Keep CWs at tier X. Best move by WG so far. 


Edited by U12D13, 14 August 2019 - 12:06 PM.

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View PostDarthCavalier, on 14 August 2019 - 11:19 AM, said:

:popcorn:

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Indeed, low entry requirements don't necessarily lead to improved gameplay or competition. Just look at what tier 6 was like.

Edited by Ezz, 14 August 2019 - 04:06 PM.

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View PostPuggsley, on 14 August 2019 - 02:55 PM, said:

Pffft Ezz, bum rushing in Cromwells, or the occasional T34-85M was highly sophisticated.

I remember when someone actually tried to call a battle. I don't think he got much past the countdown before everyone just yolo'd.


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View PostU12D13, on 14 August 2019 - 12:05 PM, said:

 

Also known as, minimum effort, minimum map and tank knowledge, minimum skill against such opponents.

 

And then there's those that complain about the minimum rewards being dished out.

 

Keep CWs at tier X. Best move by WG so far. 

 

Min effort fine for new players. Helps em be active.



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View Postchook_on_a_stick, on 13 August 2019 - 11:10 PM, said:

@ Mobious99 - So is there are way to work out where you are in the rankings on the western map or overall?

And are the rankings based purely on points, e.g. if Team A have 1000 points but has only played  on the western map and team B has 900 points but has played a game on the eastern map is team A in the lead or is team B in the lead?

Currently as I wite this Sabre is at 1545 Victory Points, but we don't appear on the only published rankings which has a pop uip menu that only includes the Eastern map. Sabre has not played on the Eastrn map as yet.

However the current number 3 ranking team on the EASTERN map ladder (i.e. FORT) is currently shown at 1524 victory points.
Does that mean we're *currently* third and FORT are fourth but just don't know it yet?

If this was the situation end of the week and we (Sabre) played a single map on the eastern map would Sabre end up in the weekly tournament?


I don't think that having the ranking made available at the end of the season is very practical or very reasonable especially when you have a new format and the rules are not very clear.

It effectively means that no one can really understand their position - not even the guys at the top of the ladder because there might be some other team that is ahead of them, or there might not be - but the situation is not clear becasue a large chunk of the teams are not shown in the ladder even if their points are higher than the people who are in the ladder.

Can we please get some clarification, or even better can we please get the rankings ladder fixed so every one can work out how the system works and where we all stand?


No weekly leaderboard or tournament for Western front, and the VP are calculated separately for the 2 fronts.
So what you see here:
https://asia.wargaming.net/globalmap/?link_place=wotp_link_main-menu#leaderboards/33/season_12_sg_tier10_15x15

Is the weekly ranking for Eastern front, and weekly tournament will setup based on the rankings here every week.


What you see in the clan portal is also affect by the technical issue - the portal leaderboard and logs are not able to differentiate 2 fronts since they are both tier X.
Take Sabre for example:
https://asia.wargaming.net/clans/wot/2000010912/globalmap

SABRE's VP were from Western front, but from log on Clan Portal, you can't tell the difference.
It's the very first time (among all servers) we ever trial a setup of Tier X with 2 fronts, which wasn't even considered when devs build current Global Map system.

Unfortunately, there's no available fix for seasonal leaderboard at the moment, at least not in this season.


We will try to work with devs for possible alternatives.

 



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View PostHoPeY_, on 14 August 2019 - 04:01 PM, said:

 

Min effort fine for new players. Helps em be active.

 

Wrong in so many levels. 

 

- It applies a misconception to new players on commitment to such activities that are deliberately aimed at end game content. 

- It throws new players into a field of coordination and strategy + a whole new system (global map) outside of simply playing the game. Even a good number of seasoned cw players dont understand how the chipping works, be it a logic block or pure laziness to grasp yet another system/ mechanic. 

- Veteran players will snuff out any casual competition and more likely discourage new players from furthering the game, and much less in competitive mode, rather than promote activity. Who signs up for a free to play game, and then gets invested in it by being brutally shut down in a competitive scene? Not everyone is a big M or aims to be bottom feed, Hopey.

- Most new players dont even know what angling / double bushing/ camo/ viewrange or their tank type to begin with. Sniping defenders and assaulting Borsigs in CWs? Yikes.

 

If anything, it will very, VERY, effectively cause new players to drop the game and never come back. Don't believe it? Try tier I CWs. #EveryoneGetsAChanceYeah?

 

 

Extra edit: Theres something called stronghold skirmish, which is essentially watered-down CWs FOR newer players, which even caters for tier 6 and 8. So your point...? If it ain't working there, it sure as hell wont in the main CWs scene. 


Edited by U12D13, 14 August 2019 - 04:25 PM.

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