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Di_inferi #1 Posted 29 August 2019 - 05:00 PM

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Wargaming wiki says that it can only be matched with tier 6 and above and I wondered if that happened to be a typo

 

Edit: how is it performing in the current game version?


Edited by SythNek, 29 August 2019 - 05:05 PM.


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It can see 5s. Do you have a link to the wiki are you looking at?

 

Edit: actually cancel that, i see what you mean. It goes back a while, but for some reason use a system called 'battle tiers' that differ from the actual tank tier. A battle tier 6 can include tier 5s (and used to include tier 4s even).


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View PostEzz, on 29 August 2019 - 05:02 PM, said:

It can see 5s. Do you have a link to the wiki are you looking at?

https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Tank:R108_T34_85M



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View PostSythNek, on 29 August 2019 - 07:06 PM, said:

Yep, and sorry for late edit, as above, it's basically WG's battle tiers that are different to tank tiers. So tier 5s will have battle tiers of 5,6,7, hence there is overlap in battle tiers that a tier 5 and the 3485m have so they can see each other.


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It can be matched according to +/-2 MM. The wiki shows the worst permutation of MM it can be in, rather than full band range (so it shows the +2).

Currently tied with Cromwell B in terms of being a meta tank for strongholds etc. One of the strongest tier 6 premiums with better DPM than its other 34-85 clones and armor of a T-43. Competitive speed also a bonus but view range is slightly poorer than average for mediums.

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View PostEzz, on 29 August 2019 - 05:09 PM, said:

Yep, and sorry for late edit, as above, it's basically WG's battle tiers that are different to tank tiers. So tier 5s will have battle tiers of 5,6,7, hence there is overlap in battle tiers that a tier 5 and the 3485m have so they can see each other.


just bought it. what crew skills (and equipments) would you recommend?

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View PostU12D13, on 29 August 2019 - 05:09 PM, said:

It can be matched according to +/-2 MM. The wiki shows the worst permutation of MM it can be in, rather than full band range (so it shows the +2).

Currently tied with Cromwell B in terms of being a meta tank for strongholds etc. One of the strongest tier 6 premiums with better DPM than its other 34-85 clones and armor of a T-43. Competitive speed also a bonus but view range is slightly poorer than average for mediums.


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Equipment, probably optics vents rammer - that's my usual mid tier med set up. Tho if you're still learning vision, you could probably swap out the optics for a GLD and use it as more of a close quarter brawler.

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I would scrap the Gun Rammer for Gun laying drive for the Cromwell. The reload time is not the problem with that tank, it is the horrible gun and massively long aim time. After playing  it for a while, many will do anything to improve the gun handling, losing 0.3second reload time to lower the aimtime from 2.22 to 1.96 is worth it.

 

And run food. To truly enjoy the CromwellB you need to buff it as much as possible, buy a tier8 tank if you want to make credits.


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View PostVindictus_Maximus, on 29 August 2019 - 05:38 PM, said:

I would scrap the Gun Rammer for Gun laying drive for the Cromwell. The reload time is not the problem with that tank, it is the horrible gun and massively long aim time. After playing  it for a while, many will do anything to improve the gun handling, losing 0.3second reload time to lower the aimtime from 2.22 to 1.96 is worth it.

 

And run food. To truly enjoy the CromwellB you need to buff it as much as possible, buy a tier8 tank if you want to make credits.

 

T-34-85M is the topic at hand but yeah....

 

Personally for T-34-85M I run Vents, Rammer and Optics (Coated if your crew is good, Binos if its a meh crew). GLD kind of useless because you need to be completely still for it to be in effect, so unless u are sniping (in a well armored medium? ) I suggest otherwise. 


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To be honest, the easiest way to enjoy the cromwell is just adapt to its gun characteristics - ie don't wait to be fully aimed for first shot. Take it at roughly half aimed. By the time it's fully aimed you'll have a second shell ready anyway, and being the middle tiers you'll normally get a few shots before half the players react anyway. That or just get in close where you'll hit most anyway, hence rammer makes more sense.

 

The 34 85m can be played similarly but again, worrying about aim time suggests you might be playing it a bit too passively.

 

View PostU12D13, on 29 August 2019 - 08:49 PM, said:

GLD kind of useless because you need to be completely still for it to be in effect, so unless u are sniping (in a well armored medium? ) I suggest otherwise. 

Not actually completely true. They affect aim time. So in cases such as when you slow down, the rate of aim spread reduction is improved there too. It's mostly in cases where a vstab is possible that it is out and out not worth it. But where there are tanks with fairly high moving dispersion that basically need to slow / stop anyway (eg crom / 34/85m) it can help in that reduction phase.

 

Tho as above, i'd always be running optics vents rammer.


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View PostEzz, on 29 August 2019 - 09:42 PM, said:

 

Not actually completely true. They affect aim time. So in cases such as when you slow down, the rate of aim spread reduction is improved there too. It's mostly in cases where a vstab is possible that it is out and out not worth it. But where there are tanks with fairly high moving dispersion that basically need to slow / stop anyway (eg crom / 34/85m) it can help in that reduction phase.

Don't you need to be stationary for the GLD to kick in ?



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View PostAngmar_, on 02 September 2019 - 08:15 AM, said:

Don't you need to be stationary for the GLD to kick in ?

 

Surprisingly, no. It just so happens that EGLD's effect is maximized when stationary, but any aiming (from turret rotation, hull rotation, moving at R or RR speeds) is improved with EGLD.


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