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Uranium__warrior #1 Posted 14 September 2019 - 06:54 PM

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Why are there no more Clan's running Stronghold Battles very much.

 

 

We rolled out twice on the 14/09/2019 sync dropping with another clan on que via discord,

but even with two complete Clan's, Matchmaker did not drop us into battle.


 


 

 


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HexHammer #2 Posted 14 September 2019 - 09:41 PM

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Because the clan wars specialist a WG decided to kill off tier6 clans, then decided to kill off the tier 8 clans, and now publishes a leaderboard in the forums that no-one replies to because there is noone left to really care

 

. Even the tier10 players being pandered to have abandoned clan competition. So yes strongholds are now dead.  as are CR/D and clan discussions.

 

When I first came to this game there was dozens upon dozens of active clans ANZ, a very vibrant ecosystem and very fun. There were clans like ANZAF, LANCR, 1AR, Crazy, NZAD that were very active and had very active secondary clans, And so many dozens of other clans, great rivalries.

 

Then a jaded player called [Redacted]  came along with a great plan to destroy the ANZ clan system (kill off the low tier social clans and force everyone to play 15v15 tier 10). And the Clan Expert at Wargaming Sydney eagerly went along with it, doubling and tripling down on each fresh failure,  and basically turned a vibrant clan forest into the clan wasteland you now see..

 

As has been pointed out many times, it is now no longer any point of starting a new clan, and it is now virtually impossible for a new player to participate in clanwars.

 

Anyway when season 14 is announced, save for a change in management,  be prepared for another fresh facepalm,

 

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Napalmer #3 Posted 14 September 2019 - 10:09 PM

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Ah yes, the flawed 'Tier 6 was the best' argument.

Please remind us once again why diluting the already shrinking active player-base is a good idea.

 

The reason people don't do tier 6 SH any more is because there's no reason to earn boxes when advances gives a lot more, and no reason to grind credits as Frontlines give more.


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View PostHexHammer, on 14 September 2019 - 09:41 PM, said:

Because the clan wars specialist a WG decided to kill off tier6 clans, then decided to kill off the tier 8 clans, and now publishes a leaderboard in the forums that no-one replies to because there is noone left to really care

 

. Even the tier10 players being pandered to have abandoned clan competition. So yes strongholds are now dead.  as are CR/D and clan discussions.

 

When I first came to this game there was dozens upon dozens of active clans ANZ, a very vibrant ecosystem and very fun. There were clans like ANZAF, LANCR, 1AR, Crazy, NZAD that were very active and had very active secondary clans, And so many dozens of other clans, great rivalries.

 

Then a jaded player called Magical Flyingfox  came along with a great plan to destroy the ANZ clan system (kill off the low tier social clans and force everyone to play 15v15 tier 10). And the Clan Expert at Wargaming Sydney eagerly went along with it, doubling and tripling down on each fresh failure,  and basically turned a vibrant clan forest into the clan wasteland you now see..

 

As has been pointed out many times, it is now no longer any point of starting a new clan, and it is now virtually impossible for a new player to participate in clanwars.

 

 

…. except that any clan can play Tier VI and VIII skirms. Your argument that WG killed it off makes no sense, as I write this, I am in a tier VIII stronghold game with MILO. Your argument is more to do with clan wars on the global map, which is not what the OP is commenting on.
Clans like lancr are welcome to do strongholds, but they choose not to. As for your point for new players to participate in clanwars, that is a terrible idea since clan wars has always been positioned as end game content. sending noobs in who have a limited understanding will only deter them rather than generate interest, as they will get burnt out by competitiveness. 

 

Seems you are a little bit obsessed over the removal of Tier VI/VIII clanwars.


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HoPeY_ #5 Posted 15 September 2019 - 02:12 AM

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Most of us got blunted into CW though. There were no magical safe steps. We just gave it a go. Hex is right on all points.

Angus775n #6 Posted 15 September 2019 - 08:15 AM

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The beginning of the end for our clan was needing to grind in strongholds to gain resources to allow landings in clan wars. For a small clan like ours having to run strongholds on top of also having people attend for clan wars was too much, esp for the players who were also trying to grind out tier 10s. And I suspect it was similar for a lot of the other smaller clans too.

We were never competitive as such in clan wars, but did well enough to win some tier 8 clan wars tank and had a lot of fun running against the better clans. The fact we always got smashed by the big clans never stopped us from turning up and having another go.



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Wait so they aren't even playing low tier stronks? I thought they said they enjoyed low tier gameplay and it was their thing. Guess not.

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Profanisaurus #8 Posted 15 September 2019 - 09:59 AM

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I still like that Fox gets the credit.
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MagicalFlyingFox #9 Posted 15 September 2019 - 11:03 AM

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 A. Guy on 02 June 2018 - 12:40 AM, said:

Destroyer of Tier 6 CW... says it all about you.


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View PostEzz, on 15 September 2019 - 08:27 AM, said:

Wait so they aren't even playing low tier stronks? I thought they said they enjoyed low tier gameplay and it was their thing. Guess not.

 

There is only skirmishes. Still active at times for a bit of light fun.



IMC_Jezza #11 Posted 15 September 2019 - 01:58 PM

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Yeah, I blame foxy too...

If so clearly that tier 6 and 8 is obviously what everyone wanted, then why aren't the skrims full?

As Nappa said, the rewards for advances, especially war games tonight are far more worth at tier 10. But 6 and 8 are still there if you want to dabble....

The diluted CW's fronts were a mistake from the offset, just have a look at the activity latest CW's seaon? Now imagine all of that on one front....

MagicalFlyingFox #12 Posted 15 September 2019 - 03:14 PM

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View PostJezzalenko1978, on 15 September 2019 - 04:58 PM, said:


The diluted CW's fronts were a mistake from the offset

But tier 6s were doing fine, should just cut off tier 10 tbh. 

 

While we're at it, add in tier 4 CW and get rid of tier 6 and 8 too. 


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 A. Guy on 02 June 2018 - 12:40 AM, said:

Destroyer of Tier 6 CW... says it all about you.


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View PostJezzalenko1978, on 15 September 2019 - 01:58 PM, said:

Yeah, I blame foxy too...

If so clearly that tier 6 and 8 is obviously what everyone wanted, then why aren't the skrims full?

As Nappa said, the rewards for advances, especially war games tonight are far more worth at tier 10. But 6 and 8 are still there if you want to dabble....

The diluted CW's fronts were a mistake from the offset, just have a look at the activity latest CW's seaon? Now imagine all of that on one front....

 

 

If you think 4 clans MAX doing advances in the Aust TZ is a win you have very low expectations. If the same rewards were available for tier 6/8 they would be CONSIDERABLY more popular.



IMC_Jezza #14 Posted 16 September 2019 - 05:10 AM

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Why would they be the same reward mate???

HoPeY_ #15 Posted 16 September 2019 - 08:49 AM

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View PostJezzalenko1978, on 16 September 2019 - 05:10 AM, said:

Why would they be the same reward mate???

 

If they were I said...

 

Fact is tier 10 is only popular in comparison because it does have rewards. Lower tiers have nothing but are still in use.



IMC_Jimmy #16 Posted 16 September 2019 - 10:27 AM

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Oh boy, just what the doctor ordered, another post about tier 6 clan wars. I remember last night over 10 clans lining up for war games.Blox and Hopey I hear you guys have a unicorn in the paddock needs to be milked,  plz attend to that , cheers.

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Its like ground hog day...

HoPeY_ #18 Posted 16 September 2019 - 10:46 AM

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More like Armageddon as numbers drop.

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View PostUranium__warrior, on 14 September 2019 - 08:54 PM, said:

Why are there no more Clan's running Stronghold Battles very much.

 

We rolled out twice on the 14/09/2019 sync dropping with another clan on que via discord,

but even with two complete Clan's, Matchmaker did not drop us into battle.

 

Hey mate, thanks for your post - To answer your question on a technical note, you need at least 3 clans up before the MM gives you a game, and even then you really want at least 4 in the mix

On a community note, alot of the clans who were in your position 18 months ago have moved up to play Advances more regularly

 

That doesn't take away from the fact that Tier VI Skirms are still alot of fun and a great way to earn credits if you're properly configured. The mode still promotes essential skills such as formation-driving, focussing fire and using your map-rings to plan your fire missions. I'll message you some Discord details privately if you want to try and get some more clans into the mix :)

 

 



MagicalFlyingFox #20 Posted 16 September 2019 - 12:20 PM

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Lowering the bar of entry is counter-intuituve to what WG are trying to accomplish with organised battles.

 


Almost like you need to get to a certain point to get rewards. No piddling around on your arse and expecting to be given gold, you actually have to earn it.

Something that appears foreign to some people.


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 A. Guy on 02 June 2018 - 12:40 AM, said:

Destroyer of Tier 6 CW... says it all about you.





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