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HoPeY_ #21 Posted 26 February 2020 - 09:27 AM

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Guess someone looked at it. But just looking at a video and not knowing what the sequence of events is for both clans after this battle it kind of means nothing to the rest of us. Sometimes you have to lose to avoid techs and you don't need a caller usually to do that. Or are we not allowed to lose/draw to avoid penalties now?

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Puggsley #22 Posted 26 February 2020 - 09:38 AM

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Losing to prevent a tech loss is fine.

It’s losing when there has been collusion to boost fame points which is the issue.

Would take some keen investigative eyes to see what is going on with the clan logs.

Could be interesting looking at who was in the teams and how fast they were boosting up the leaderboard in those final days.

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View PostHoPeY_, on 26 February 2020 - 11:27 AM, said:

Or are we not allowed to lose/draw to avoid penalties now?

ONE would have actually played the games to avoid the penalties, I wouldn't say lack of substance on their part but I guess causing discord by teching and impact other clans certainly is a crappy move from that clan, am I right Comrd?

 

Losing to avoid a penalty is fine as long as you actually play the match, rigging a match to boost another clan isn't


   

     

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HoPeY_ #24 Posted 26 February 2020 - 09:43 AM

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Exactly. But just looking at a video shows nothing to me besides that OPA needed to lose possibly (avoid penalty) and a team of 12 PAKIN seemed happy to get a surprise opportunity to get a win with a 12 man team. 12 man team be expected to lose so callers be in full teams be my guess. Video is nothing without added data.

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Profanisaurus #25 Posted 26 February 2020 - 09:44 AM

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Well OPA dropped to 4th so seems like that's the added data you need.
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HoPeY_ #26 Posted 26 February 2020 - 09:50 AM

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View PostProfanisaurus, on 26 February 2020 - 09:44 AM, said:

Well OPA dropped to 4th so seems like that's the added data you need.

 

Fair enough but all we can see is an inconclusive video. But I'm sure other stuff went on we know nothing about.



IMC_Jezza #27 Posted 26 February 2020 - 10:00 AM

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Thank god those in the position to make the decisions regarding penalties surrounding events such as these, have a way of seeing through these clans [edited]arguments, and smoke and mirror excuses trying to back-pedal their way out of blatant exploitation of rules that affect other players playing fairly!

 

GG WG I say, hat's off.  It's refreshing to see fair and just punishments handed out swiftly to those that tried to manipulate the results, not only to their own clans, but by denying others!


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Profanisaurus #28 Posted 26 February 2020 - 10:01 AM

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View PostHoPeY_, on 26 February 2020 - 01:50 PM, said:

 

Fair enough but all we can see is an inconclusive video. But I'm sure other stuff went on we know nothing about.

 

There are definitely other videos around.

I get the impression investigations are not finished yet either.


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HoPeY_ #29 Posted 26 February 2020 - 10:03 AM

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Fair enough, I've seen nothing but that Video.

HoPeY_ #30 Posted 26 February 2020 - 10:16 AM

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Be nice to see a breakdown on why people actually got removed as a lesson to others and to avoid mistakes in the future.

 

Mine that am hoping to get removed is:

 

Intentional massive bidding on Global Map, rigging clans FP.



Profanisaurus #31 Posted 26 February 2020 - 10:18 AM

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So you didn't get done for using more than one account? Guess the warning field doesn't have room for two reasons.
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HoPeY_ #32 Posted 26 February 2020 - 10:21 AM

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Why should I have?

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I think they mostly fall into the “tried to be too [edited] smart by half” category.

And just about all could be avoided by first asking the question “Would I be proud to have WG tell my Mum about my actions” before said actions were taken.

Another good one would be “would I be happy to miss out on a tank by 1 spot if I found out about another clan doing this?”

HoPeY_ #34 Posted 26 February 2020 - 10:27 AM

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I failed at the reading the rules bit. Though all in my clan at the time failed that too as well as all I've asked about it since. Lesson learnt.

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You seriously don’t think rigging FP, which is what decides who gets a reward tank, is not worthy of a sanction?

That’s top of the list of reasons why you should get a sanction in an event all about your FP rank.

HoPeY_ #36 Posted 26 February 2020 - 10:33 AM

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View PostPuggsley, on 26 February 2020 - 10:30 AM, said:

You seriously don’t think rigging FP, which is what decides who gets a reward tank, is not worthy of a sanction?

That’s top of the list of reasons why you should get a sanction in an event all about your FP rank.

 

In what way did I rig fame points? Who missed out? Was I the actual CO/XO with final say in any suggestions? Please fill me in.



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oh, everyone else in the clan was wrong as well? Well of course you should be reinstated then...
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View PostHoPeY_, on 26 February 2020 - 11:27 AM, said:

I failed at the reading the rules bit. Though all in my clan at the time failed that too as well as all I've asked about it since. Lesson learnt.

But in the screenshot you knew exactly what you where doing...you said time to give some clans no fame points


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View PostHoPeY_, on 26 February 2020 - 12:16 PM, said:

Be nice to see a breakdown on why people actually got removed as a lesson to others and to avoid mistakes in the future.

 

Mine that am hoping to get removed is:

 

Intentional massive bidding on Global Map, rigging clans FP.

 

I heard that someone got done for this rule

 

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Mass bidding on Global Map, while

  1. Failing to participate in the battles of won bids

 

Also heard that he has appealed the decision.

 

Having been recently through the WG court of appeal for using the W key, I wish him the best of British luck with that.

 


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There is the literal interpretation of the rules, and then there is the spirit of the rules.

Need to be aware of both as there will be grey areas open to interpretation. Play in the grey areas and you are playing with fire.




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