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Warhammer124 #1 Posted 24 May 2020 - 09:57 AM

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So WG you are nerfing the 430U and Progetto 65 but the reward tanks stay the same once again? Excuse me but how is that logical at all?

 

You havent even given us the promised HT buff yet and already you plan on nerfing 2 tanks that aren't even on par with chieftains, 907's and 279e's.

 


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Good thing they will nerf that proggetto OP. Whenever i join a battle and see 3 proggetto 65 in the enemy team i know my game will be total shit splash HE autoloader the whole game. The game just become unplayable when there are 3 proggeto 65 on the enemy team. Well done WG. I was almost quitting the game because of the proggetto 65 existing in first place.

 

Now i dont even need to bother grinding neither 430u or the progetto 65. Thats why i play only premium tanks. These never gets nerfed!


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Wodka_Warrior #4 Posted 24 May 2020 - 12:27 PM

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Yeah 430 nerf should've happened a long time ago with reward tanks as well. 

 

Oh look patsa tank is good at killing the Soviet hoards....BLAMMO can't have that! ( Yes I'm salty I just got the standard bae).

 

Yes buff kraut tanks please. Whatever psychedelic infused wodka they're drinking over there I want some... hopefully on sale in the next black market event! (ʘᗩʘ’;)



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Fake-nerfing the 430U, over-nerfing the Progetto and the Standard B :izmena:
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I just got 430U yesterday and played 45 games in it

 

I don't see how it can be considered OP on this server when UFP is only 300 after angling


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430u wont get nerfed all talk

 

Standard B and Prog 65 will.



MagicalFlyingFox #8 Posted 24 May 2020 - 03:22 PM

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270/280mm cupola is not a nerf :D

 

not sure why you are saying 'again' when it hasnt been touched since release.


Edited by MagicalFlyingFox, 24 May 2020 - 03:25 PM.

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Whose armor is better anyway? 279e or 430U

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View PostNameWasStolenStresslevel, on 24 May 2020 - 12:18 PM, said:

Good thing they will nerf that proggetto OP. Whenever i join a battle and see 3 proggetto 65 in the enemy team i know my game will be total shit splash HE autoloader the whole game. The game just become unplayable when there are 3 proggeto 65 on the enemy team. Well done WG. I was almost quitting the game because of the proggetto 65 existing in first place.

 

Now i dont even need to bother grinding neither 430u or the progetto 65. Thats why i play only premium tanks. These never gets nerfed!

 

Agreed. I have not played non premium tanks since 2015 but I guess I must be missing a lot of fun.


Edited by BadAtLightTanks, 24 May 2020 - 05:49 PM.


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"Weakspots are nerfed"

 

Still needs sprem to pen it.


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_Sp4rtacus_ #12 Posted 24 May 2020 - 08:25 PM

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 nerfing the 430U and Progetto 65

 The 430U and the Progetto 65 arnt OP , more stupidity from WG ...

279 (e) hehe carry on :popcorn:

 

WG are a bunch of buffoons .


Edited by _Sp4rtacus_, 24 May 2020 - 09:19 PM.


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If any WG staff wants to know why 430U isn't OP

 


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View Post_Sp4rtacus_, on 24 May 2020 - 09:25 PM, said:

[EDIT]

 


Edited by _Sp4rtacus_, 24 May 2020 - 09:20 PM.


Ezz #15 Posted 24 May 2020 - 10:27 PM

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View PostAoyama_Blue_Mountain, on 24 May 2020 - 10:40 PM, said:

If any WG staff wants to know why 430U isn't OP

 

I wish all my heavies bounced like that :(


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View PostEzz, on 25 May 2020 - 12:47 AM, said:

Menthol German heavy... Pen pen pen pen pen

The E100 sure is a productive BiC factory. 


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View PostAoyama_Blue_Mountain, on 24 May 2020 - 12:40 PM, said:

If any WG staff wants to know why 430U isn't OP

 

Or alternatively why it is...


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You can't bounce anything on the ASIA server, players on ASIA are just simply too smart. If you try to only expose the strong parts of your armor, you get smacked by premium rounds. If you try to side scrape, you get smacked by HE rounds. You can't even block damage nowadays. 

I miss the good old days when I could still get a Steel Wall on the ASIA server.


On the other hand, I am hearing a lot of negative feedback even to the Progetto and Standard B on the EU and Russia forums. With both EU and even the Russian server in line, I would be surprised if WG does not at least tune down the nerfs to the Progetto and the 430U.

And frankly, I think the Progetto and Standard B are perfectly balanced the way they are. No one (at least I haven't seen anyone) would be annoyed by the presence of Progetto and Standard B. Take the Standard B as an example, it still has one of the lowest DPM when firing one at a time when fully loaded of any tier 9 medium tank, only superseding the BC 25T AP and the Char Futur. Is that too strong? Penetration and mobility (and pretty much everything else) are more or less in line with the PTA. I just don't see the reason in nerfing it this much, let alone nerfing it at all. :sceptic::confused:


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