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FramFramson #1 Posted 22 October 2021 - 11:21 AM

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Like the title says. I have a bunch of Russians doing nothing and I need a functional T3 in case someone wants T3 games and obviously I only care about something abusive. The only two T3 Russian tanks with high DPM are the SU-76i (which I don't have and don't expect to ever be able to get) and the T-46

 

So uh... is it any good?


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Dunno about the T-46 but if you want OP tier 3 the T-127 was pretty good. Actually had armour.

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T127 and t46 have similar damage, but t127 has the better view range and armour so would be the pick (T46 has the speed instead). If you don't want to spend gold though, the T46 is acceptable.

 

Keep in mind the Valentine now dominates that tier so outbullies either of those (and they will have to deal with it).



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As far as i could tell all tier 3s played almost the same. Use vision if possible, try not to get shot, then dpm sleepy bots/'bots'. In other words... just wait for an expert to advise, i'm sure siggy will be around shortly.

 

Side note, last prem i sold was the t127 and still bummed it was pre recovery so i can't get it back.


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Ahem. 76i is lyf.

127 is probably my second favourite with a cheeky shout out to the T-15. There are very few tree tanks better than the prems at that tier.  As Big M says the Val is a boss because of it's armour but it has the mobility of me after 2 months of lockdown so a competent player can deal with them.

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The strv is quite good, mobile, excellent pen but effectively no Alpha. Chi Has are worth a look as well because pen.

 
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View PostFramFramson, on 22 October 2021 - 11:21 AM, said:

Like the title says. I have a bunch of Russians doing nothing and I need a functional T3 in case someone wants T3 games and obviously I only care about something abusive. The only two T3 Russian tanks with high DPM are the SU-76i (which I don't have and don't expect to ever be able to get) and the T-46

 

So uh... is it any good?

 

Uh, none of the tier 3 USSR's have DPM like the SU-76i at 1776 DPM. T-46 gets 2000 DPM, but that's with the SH-37 with 40 pen, in a tank that's neither mobile enough or armored enough to get into position.

 

From there, the next bet are probably the 1400 DPM tanks, the T-46 with 76mm gun or the T-29 with the same gun. Tanks with the 45mm 20K gun tend to get 1200 DPM at best, like T-116, T-127, and LTP. 1300 DPM can be achieved with the T-70 45mm gun.


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That said, my go-to tank for tier 3 funsies is the GroBTraktor. 620 HP, more HP than tier 5 MT's.

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The problem with the Gtr is the complete lack of armour. A machine gun firing HE will pen it. So while your derp can be amusing it can cost your whole hit points to use it.
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View PostLeSigh, on 22 October 2021 - 01:11 PM, said:

The problem with the Gtr is the complete lack of armour. A machine gun firing HE will pen it. So while your derp can be amusing it can cost your whole hit points to use it.

 

True, but it amuses me. And that's all that matters.


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View PostThe_Big_M, on 21 October 2021 - 11:07 PM, said:

T127 and t46 have similar damage

 

Pretty sure they don't? 1,250~ dpm vs 2k?



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View Postmttspiii, on 21 October 2021 - 11:45 PM, said:

 

Uh, none of the tier 3 USSR's have DPM like the SU-76i at 1776 DPM. T-46 gets 2000 DPM, but that's with the SH-37 with 40 pen, in a tank that's neither mobile enough or armored enough to get into position.

 

From there, the next bet are probably the 1400 DPM tanks, the T-46 with 76mm gun or the T-29 with the same gun. Tanks with the 45mm 20K gun tend to get 1200 DPM at best, like T-116, T-127, and LTP. 1300 DPM can be achieved with the T-70 45mm gun.

 

The T46 supposedly has a top speed of 58 and a PtW of 25, which should more than suffice at that tier? Is that killed by soft stats or something?

 

The pen seems a much more relevant problem, basically obliging you to fire full gold at anything same tier or higher and even some T2s.


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One tank I never seem to see is the Pz IV A. I would have thought that 110 alpha with 1,720 DPM would bring out the memelords, but the T3 German players are always trotting out the III E instead. But it's slow, has crap armour, AND crap pen on top, so I can understand people with half a brain not using it.

 

The Swedes are an interesting option as I do have a HUGE number of Swedes also sitting around doing sweet [edited] all.



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View PostFramFramson, on 22 October 2021 - 02:11 PM, said:

The T46 supposedly has a top speed of 58 and a PtW of 25, which should more than suffice at that tier? Is that killed by soft stats or something?

 

The pen seems a much more relevant problem, basically obliging you to fire full gold at anything same tier or higher and even some T2s.

 

Might be the 55% crews I used when grinding it, but it never seemed to get into position the way a BT-7A or Pz1c could. Might be mobility, or camo, or armor.


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View PostEzz, on 22 October 2021 - 12:37 PM, said:

As far as i could tell all tier 3s played almost the same. Use vision if possible, try not to get shot, then dpm sleepy bots/'bots'. In other words... just wait for an expert to advise, i'm sure siggy will be around shortly.

 

Side note, last prem i sold was the t127 and still bummed it was pre recovery so i can't get it back.


Have you tried going to the Support website and using the automated vehicle recovery ?

I got a bunch of them old freebie prems back for the 10th Anniversary event via that, for some extra credits when they gifted it again.

Process is fairly quick since it is automated and you don't have to wait for someone to look at the ticket.


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Didn't list it as recoverable last I looked. I gather only prems sold after a certain point show up. But will look again at some point.

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View PostFramFramson, on 22 October 2021 - 04:10 PM, said:

 

Pretty sure they don't? 1,250~ dpm vs 2k?

 

Sorry for confusion, was referring per shot basis. As you say, DPM is different with 2000 DPM on T46 thanks to the autoloader.



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View Postmttspiii, on 22 October 2021 - 02:10 AM, said:

Pz1c

 

Okay well, sure, that's going to be hard to beat. But then the Pz1C ain't what it used to be, not with how hard they gimped the gun. I guess I can't blame them for that though.



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The Czech is quite amusing as well. Pz 38t with a 3 shot autoloader. It's a Skoda T-50 at tier 3.

Only reason I don't have it anymore is there is no Czech Prem light so I used the crew in the tier 5 for marks then as a crew for the Heavy line.
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View PostEzz, on 22 October 2021 - 07:30 PM, said:

Didn't list it as recoverable last I looked. I gather only prems sold after a certain point show up. But will look again at some point.

 

My Mini Maus, wasn't on the recovery list either, but 2 months ago , i sent support a ticket about it, as per below, 

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Yeah i went with a ticket. The process for which requires selecting the tank you want recovered from a drop down. In true WG style my drop down was all tanks i still had, but not the T127. It will be a fun test for the whiz kids in support if they actually read the blurb below or will just tell me they can't recover the tank i selected in the drop down because i already have it.

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