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Nishizumi_Miho_SG #1 Posted 25 November 2021 - 09:02 AM

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Many people posted about Obj. 274a before marathon and said how OP it is, now it is sold for 7500 gold.

 

Nobody talking about ALT Proto despite marathon starting tomorrow means it is actual OP?



Ezz #2 Posted 25 November 2021 - 09:15 AM

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Pretty standard new prem. Better than most tech tree meds and old prems, not perfect but should be fun.

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View PostNishizumi_Miho_SG, on 25 November 2021 - 11:02 AM, said:

Many people posted about Obj. 274a before marathon and said how OP it is, now it is sold for 7500 gold.

 

 

That's the going rate for Tier 8 Med Premiums.

 

For example, Bourrasque is 7600 gold. It doesn't relate to OP-ness or not.



Nishizumi_Miho_SG #4 Posted 25 November 2021 - 12:31 PM

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View PostThe_Big_M, on 25 November 2021 - 12:21 PM, said:

 

That's the going rate for Tier 8 Med Premiums.

 

For example, Bourrasque is 7600 gold. It doesn't relate to OP-ness or not.

Bourrasque was never actually sold for 7600 gold tho.



Ezz #5 Posted 25 November 2021 - 12:33 PM

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Indeed, what they tend to do is make the more op tanks cash only, while the more run of the mill prems available for gold / bonds / free via recruiting.

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The_Big_M #6 Posted 25 November 2021 - 12:40 PM

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View PostNishizumi_Miho_SG, on 25 November 2021 - 02:31 PM, said:

Bourrasque was never actually sold for 7600 gold tho.

 

Yeah, whether it's sold for gold or not comes down to popularity and likely stats. But that changes over time... e.g. Progetto was sold for gold a couple of years ago, but is rarely sold by any means since.



Angus775n #7 Posted 27 November 2021 - 11:34 AM

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Saw my first one in the wild today, they did reasonable damage and finished 2 on the team list... however it was being driven by a 60% win rate tanker, so take it as you will

GN_Ball_II #8 Posted 27 November 2021 - 12:59 PM

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Seen a few gameplay review from youtubers (experienced players) in eu, From what they say, the gun is the same as other french tanks, but average if compared to other op/more popular medium premium tanks of same tier. But from what I have watched on their gameplay, it tends to catch on fire easily when shot at the side where the engine is. Out of 3 of skill's games, he caught on fire twice, all hits from the side.

 



don_WarDaddy_AVI #9 Posted 27 November 2021 - 01:13 PM

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Content Creators are saying the tank is very agile & can reach crucial positions pretty fast, the gun stability is also very good!


                                                               

Nishizumi_Miho_SG #10 Posted 27 November 2021 - 01:25 PM

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Can't be bothered to give Google money, how many aimbot shots can the turret block?

HexHammer #11 Posted 27 November 2021 - 01:45 PM

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Wargaming need to understand that they are pricing themselves out of the market, and only a small percentage of the playerbase will bother buying this tank Unless the tank is something special, like the EBR, Barrousque ect, people have no use for another run of the mill, single shot premium T8.

 

All their tanks are overpriced, and most not even pay $10 for this tank.  High alpha TDs,, light tanks, autoloaders are what players want, and most already have them anyway and no use for another tier8 premium. 

 

I think another the problem is that powercreep has broken tier8 beyond repair, and left too many of their customers with tanks that now just gather dust.  

 

Anyway. Wargamimg your $50 -$70 tanks are only actually worth a fraction of that price. It is no longer 2016, your servr numbers are in decline and probably the lowest ever, price accordingly for your own good

 

 

 

 

 

 



Ezz #12 Posted 27 November 2021 - 02:12 PM

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Fair point hex, as the quality of product (meaning gameplay etc. ) degrades, charging the same amount seems like a stretch. But thankfully there are plenty of clueless whales out there keeping the servers alive. Some appear to have bought this straight away... why anyone would do that given just plodding around in pubs gets you an instant discount.

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Yeah, it's been years since I've even considered paying full price for a prem, and most at any price more recently. Might do a trade in at some point with one or two of the various T8s I wasn't even trying to get or don't use anymore, but ehhhh. 

 

It really is just Bad Value.

 

What I WOULD pay for (depending on price, obv) was the ability to premium-ify a tech-tree tank.



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Conversely, I don't see any reason why they would discount it further.

 

Thanks to the event, it's already possible to get it much cheaper than normal price, if you're interested to. So if money is an object, but you want it, you can already get it cheaper. They're already catering for the time rich, money poor crowd who want it.

 

Beyond that, why would they cannibalise their own revenue by reducing the price for others who are willing to pay price for it? That doesn't make any business sense at all.

 

Further, to do so would cause valuation problems across all their other premium tier 8s and flowing from that, every other tier. Again, it makes no sense.

 

So as ever, if you want it, buy it. If you don't, don't. But it's as good a deal as you'll get if you want it. 



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In before 1 year down the road

 

Players: "WG please sell the ALTProto or this is unfair to us who don't have it"


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my Legend of the Hunter event timer is showing "4 H" (in the bottom right side of the screen)... is it some kind of Bug?


                                                               

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View Postdon_WarDaddy_AVI, on 27 November 2021 - 10:33 PM, said:

my Legend of the Hunter event timer is showing "4 H" (in the bottom right side of the screen)... is it some kind of Bug?

 

 

No, they're wrapping it up early 'cause Hex complained it wasn't worthy.



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View PostAoyama_Blue_Mountain, on 27 November 2021 - 06:43 PM, said:

In before 1 year down the road

 

Players: "WG please sell the ALTProto or this is unfair to us who don't have it"

I did that with the bourrasque and ebr 75 :( . Going for this even though it's a "meh" tank for me. Regrets are bad mmmk?


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Nah [edited] that. I got to 70% on the Bourra and the EBR I still don't regret not buying


Ezz #20 Posted 28 November 2021 - 06:07 AM

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It's meh in some regards, excellent in others but as a tight arse 230 pen standard is going to be very appreciated. Also fwiw a bit of t49 play teaches you a lot about mitigating poor turret dispersion. Right click is your friend. Interestingly skill was complimentary about its dispersion while qb the opposite. Will be interesting to see their second impressions after spending more time with it.

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