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AnthonyIrwin #1 Posted 31 March 2022 - 01:54 PM

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Hi guys, i wanna get a bond tank that's decent to play, good for crew training(this is a real must) and if possible has good moneymaking potential. What bond vehicles are good? Currently the Tiger 131 looks decent enough, followed by T26E5, AMX m4 49 and then IS-5, all three of which look playable to me and have good crew training potential

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You can buy skill books, so crew training isn't as important as it looks.

 

As for the choices, Tiger 131 is a joy of a tank, but kinda loses out on crew training over time since the top-tier German HT's Maus and E 100 require two loaders unlike Tiger 131. Also, you don't earn that much credits on tier 6 as you do with tier 8 tanks.

AMX M4 49 is a good choice, good credits, but French HT's are kinda powercrept so while you can train crews for both French lines, it's unlikely that you'd find a tank worth training the crews for, except maybe for the AMX M4 51.

T26E5 is also a good choice, effective tank, and the US HT line has a lot of good tanks as well worth training crews on. It's also friendly for new players with their fresh tank crews.

IS-5 will get you a lot of mileage since there are so many good USSR HT's, but it's also a rough start for new players since its gun handling suffers greatly with a low-level crew.


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Whooohooo #3 Posted 02 April 2022 - 10:01 PM

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View Postmttspiii, on 31 March 2022 - 06:55 PM, said:

You can buy skill books, so crew training isn't as important as it looks.

 

As for the choices, Tiger 131 is a joy of a tank, but kinda loses out on crew training over time since the top-tier German HT's Maus and E 100 require two loaders unlike Tiger 131. Also, you don't earn that much credits on tier 6 as you do with tier 8 tanks.

AMX M4 49 is a good choice, good credits, but French HT's are kinda powercrept so while you can train crews for both French lines, it's unlikely that you'd find a tank worth training the crews for, except maybe for the AMX M4 51.

T26E5 is also a good choice, effective tank, and the US HT line has a lot of good tanks as well worth training crews on. It's also friendly for new players with their fresh tank crews.

IS-5 will get you a lot of mileage since there are so many good USSR HT's, but it's also a rough start for new players since its gun handling suffers greatly with a low-level crew.

any mid tier fun to play aside from 131? like i don't really training them just playing on a whim


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mttspiii #4 Posted 03 April 2022 - 10:14 AM

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View PostWhooohooo, on 02 April 2022 - 10:01 PM, said:

any mid tier fun to play aside from 131? like i don't really training them just playing on a whim

- M10 RBFM is a reliable gun with decent armor. Play it like a TD or a support MT, it's fine. Only thing holding it back is its TD-esque hitpoints.

- T-34S mates the 76mm's alpha with the 57mm's buzzsaw DPM, but without the accuracy so you'd need to drive a little closer. Your extra armor isn't enough to let you stay in your gun's optimal range however, and will weigh you down so it takes longer for you to get to brawling distance.

- IS-2S has less top speed and turret traverse, but better gun dispersion than typical IS clones. A slower, smoother IS, but not dramatically different enough to change their gameplay

- PzIV Hydro is a weaker version of the PzIV H that trades view range and HE-proof front armor for 2km faster reverse speed.

- 131 is a big box of hitpoints and joy. Not as much hitpoints as 3601, but it doesn't bleed out HP as readily from its 80mm sides unlike 3601's 60mm's.


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Copy pasted from my recent post in 40WR discord:

Note: # - no credit bonus / @ - newbie friendly in terms of playability

M60 Good; Sniping Med #
121B Great; DPM Armor HESH # @
FV215b Bad; Worse SConq #
IS-5 Decent; Bad gun handling
KV-4 Kresl Meme; rare meatball
Guard Bad; Sniping 122 with no gun dep
T-103 Good; Su100Y with a turret
IS-6B Bad; Outclassed old HT
M 41 90 GF Good; Good gun, bad at LT things
Strv 81 Bad; A thinner worse Cent 1
M46 Kr Bad; A worse pershing
Senlac Decent; A worse M41 90
Chrysler GF Decent; Can't pen without gold, can't be penned without gold @
T26E5 P Good; Low alpha high RoF
AMX M4 49 L Good; Accurate gun but years to aim. @
T-34-3 Good; Enjoy slapping soil @
Pz.58 Mutz Bad; Gun never goes straight, no armor, meh speed
Alpine Tiger Bad; Horrible gun, HEAT spam required, unreliable armor, shit mobility
IS-2S Decent; but better IS2 premiums exist @
Tiger 131 Decent; Same as HT6 @
Pz.4 Hydro Bad; collector tank with less armor, dpm and viewrange than standard 4H with a 75mm gun.
T-34S Decent; struggles with poor VR and meh speed. @
M10 RBFM Good; pew pew TD @

Id suggest going for something with more armor and less reliant on skill ceiling (map knowledge, meta plays etc)

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AnthonyIrwin #6 Posted 03 April 2022 - 07:55 PM

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View PostU12D13, on 03 April 2022 - 12:12 PM, said:

Copy pasted from my recent post in 40WR discord:

Note: # - no credit bonus / @ - newbie friendly in terms of playability

M60 Good; Sniping Med #
121B Great; DPM Armor HESH # @
FV215b Bad; Worse SConq #
IS-5 Decent; Bad gun handling
KV-4 Kresl Meme; rare meatball
Guard Bad; Sniping 122 with no gun dep
T-103 Good; Su100Y with a turret
IS-6B Bad; Outclassed old HT
M 41 90 GF Good; Good gun, bad at LT things
Strv 81 Bad; A thinner worse Cent 1
M46 Kr Bad; A worse pershing
Senlac Decent; A worse M41 90
Chrysler GF Decent; Can't pen with gold, can't be penned with gold @
T26E5 P Good; Low alpha high RoF
AMX M4 49 L Good; Accurate gun but years to aim. @
T-34-3 Good; Enjoy slapping soil @
Pz.58 Mutz Bad; Gun never goes straight, no armor, meh speed
Alpine Tiger Bad; Horrible gun, HEAT spam required, unreliable armor, shit mobility
IS-2S Decent; but better IS2 premiums exist @
Tiger 131 Decent; Same as HT6 @
Pz.4 Hydro Bad; collector tank with less armor, dpm and viewrange than standard 4H with a 75mm gun.
T-34S Decent; struggles with poor VR and meh speed. @
M10 RBFM Good; pew pew TD @

Id suggest going for something with more armor and less reliant on skill ceiling (map knowledge, meta plays etc)

Based off your list, im handpicking Tiger 131, AMX M4, Chrysler, T26E5, and IS-5. Tiger comes first, then maybe T26E5



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View Postmttspiii, on 31 March 2022 - 07:55 PM, said:

You can buy skill books, so crew training isn't as important as it looks.

 

As for the choices, Tiger 131 is a joy of a tank, but kinda loses out on crew training over time since the top-tier German HT's Maus and E 100 require two loaders unlike Tiger 131. Also, you don't earn that much credits on tier 6 as you do with tier 8 tanks.

AMX M4 49 is a good choice, good credits, but French HT's are kinda powercrept so while you can train crews for both French lines, it's unlikely that you'd find a tank worth training the crews for, except maybe for the AMX M4 51.

T26E5 is also a good choice, effective tank, and the US HT line has a lot of good tanks as well worth training crews on. It's also friendly for new players with their fresh tank crews.

IS-5 will get you a lot of mileage since there are so many good USSR HT's, but it's also a rough start for new players since its gun handling suffers greatly with a low-level crew.

What ive already done with my Churchill 3 is train multiple loaders seperately i.e. train 1 loader till he's 100%, then send him to his tech tree tank and train another one. That's how i got 2 good loaders for my KV-2



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Buy the M10 RBFM, you'll have fun killing tanks(I've seen its power from the other end of its barrel):)

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